Mark Zuckerberg criticized Apple on Joe Rogan's podcast for its lack of innovation and strict third-party developer rules. "It’s like Steve Jobs invented the iPhone, and now they’re just kind of sitting on it 20 years later.

The company began censoring speech after receiving pressure from the Biden administration, Zuckerberg said. “It’s pretty bad” when you have “people in the Biden administration calling up the guys on our team and yelling at them and cursing and threatening repercussions if we don’t take things down that are true,” he told Rogan.

Early on in the interview, Zuckerberg tests out the water to see how much pushback he’ll get; Rogan is a notoriously soft interviewer — it’s like listening to your dumbest s